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Post by mart on Mar 24, 2013 5:09:06 GMT -5
Cheers mates! In the past, trucks needed an "Apportioned" plate for each serval state. As far as I know, in the early 80th the law changed an the "Home" plate is still enough for all states and Canada. But whats about the DOT numbers, shown on the cab side? Is that still a must? I built all my models without those numbers, because I don't know. At some Revell kits of the past, such decals were added, but I have no examples at home. Another big problem are the license- / tax plates added at the kits of Revell or Italeri. They show car plates, but no plates for trucks. I'm glad, to have an example of serval WI- plates and gave order to my decal printer, to make a series. But each couple of years, the plate images are changing! The plate, showing in my avatar (it was a gift) is not for a big rig or not for using outside WI ? I found an example for a WI Apportioned and used this for my model trucks, but i don't know, wether it is the actually one. As far as I know, this plate is one of the 80th. In Germay we don't know this problem, because cars and trucks using the the same plate image. It's not a "license" but the "name" of the vehicle and it's no problem, to buy a plate in a special shop. It's valid only with the stamps of the County- / Town- Administration and the Technical- Controll- Administration (TÜV) on it. Regards, Martin
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Post by 41chevy on Mar 24, 2013 11:07:14 GMT -5
Companies that operate commercial vehicles transporting passengers or hauling cargo in interstate commerce must be registered with the Federal Motor Carrier Safty Administratiom and must have a USDOT Number. Also, commercial intrastate hazardous materials carriers who haul quantities requiring a safety permit must register for a USDOT Number. The USDOT Number serves as a unique identifier when collecting and monitoring a company's safety information acquired during audits, compliance reviews, crash investigations, and inspections.
Companies that operate as for hire carriers (for a fee or other compensation) that transport passengers or federally regulated commodities, or arrange for their transport, in interstate commerce are also required to have interstate operating authority. FMCSA operating authority is also referred to as an "MC," "FF," or "MX" number, depending on the type of authority that is granted. Unlike the USDOT Number application process, a company may need to obtain multiple operating authorities to support its planned business operations. Operating Authority dictates the type of operation a company may run and the cargo it may carry.
These are the States that require the DOT numbers displayed on the truck Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, New York, Nebraska, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.
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mart
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Post by mart on Mar 24, 2013 12:50:27 GMT -5
Hi Paul!
Thanks for explanation! German / european companys also needs a registration, but nothing must be displayed on the truck, we have everything on paper. That means, if the Police or the Ferderal Beauro of Transportation stops me for a check, a lot of paperwork is to do. In past times, befor the barricades in Europe felt down, it was very hard, to get an permission for other countrys. Nowadays it's no problem, but a "Blue Card" is needed - simply a paper. For the loaded goods, a CMR- Freightpaper is needed for hauling goods from one country into another one - thats all. Inside Germany we don't need it. E.g.: If I go to south France, there is no stop at a borderline, the toll we pay in Germay via a satelite operated system and in France by credit card, because they have toll barriers like in the US. Thats much more easier, than driving into Swizzerland (not member of the European Community!) For the Netherlands, Belgium ans Luxembourg the dispatcher pay the toll via internet.
Do You have an example for such a DOT number badge on the truck?
Regards,
Martin
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Post by scrubba on Mar 24, 2013 15:09:29 GMT -5
Yep, the numbers are still required . In fact , an IFTA sticker is also required someplace visible on the cab. This shows that Fuel taxes were paid.
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Post by mart on Mar 25, 2013 11:13:43 GMT -5
Hello Scrubba! Don't you pay the fuel tax at each filling up at the gas station? In Germany, one liter Diesel is arround 1,45 €. Thats roundabout 7,68 $ per gallon. In this price is included: The oil itself, ecological tax, oil tax and VAT. Premium and Regular is more expensiv. At our Company, we have an own gas station and so we get the diesel arround 25 % cheaper. Regards, Martin
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Post by scrubba on Mar 25, 2013 15:07:15 GMT -5
Martin, here in the "States" , one pays two kinds of fuel taxes, federal gasoline tax and then state fuel taxes. n Arkansas , one has to pay at the weigh station so many dollars in STATE fuel taxes for miles driven WITHIN the state of Arkansas . Virginia will soon eliminate tax on the sale of gasoline. However, it has instituted yet an INCRESE in the diesel tax . It will also increase it's sales taxes to compensate for the loss of gasoline tax revenue.
The IFTA sticker is for Federal diesel road tax. Right now , diesel , self service is running between 4.10 a gallon and 4.30 a gallon here.
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Post by 78kw on Mar 25, 2013 17:04:50 GMT -5
And dont forget IRS form 2290. Its an annual tax paid by the truck owner based on truck size and annual miles driven. For an over the road semi tractor, its $550 each year. Not so bad if you only own 1 truck. But thats $550 per truck/per year. Thats in addition to all the other taxes everyone mentioned so far.
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Post by mart on Mar 26, 2013 13:03:44 GMT -5
Well, I see, it's complete different from our system, but it's also the same rip-off!
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Post by scrubba on Mar 26, 2013 17:24:12 GMT -5
And dont forget IRS form 2290. Its an annual tax paid by the truck owner based on truck size and annual miles driven. For an over the road semi tractor, its $550 each year. Not so bad if you only own 1 truck. But thats $550 per truck/per year. Thats in addition to all the other taxes everyone mentioned so far. Sent from my SPH-D710 using proboards Yes, don't forget the danged forms , the government mice get bored !!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by 41chevy on Mar 26, 2013 19:46:44 GMT -5
And the EOBR and your Manifest and dealing with FMCAS, State DOT, County DOT and now I've hit local VCE enforcement. Info goes on both doors, the MC number is your Federal Authority for Owner Operators to haul cargo. Hey,Scrubba Diesel on L.I. 459 to 4.89 a gal.
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Post by rnagle on Mar 26, 2013 21:10:41 GMT -5
Depending on what era the truck you are modelling is from there may be a number of small fuel tax decals (for individual states) displayed. This is one I drove back in 1995. Scanned from a print so not the best photo but you can see multicolored squares on aluminum panel riveted to sleeper door. Last year I drove long distance was 1997, that year a single IFTA decal replaced the multiple ones on the tractor I was driving.
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Post by 78kw on Mar 26, 2013 23:10:34 GMT -5
Pauls pic reminded me, the state of Colorado wants your VIN number displayed as well.
What rnagle pointed out is important also. The single sticker that replaced the numerous fuel tax stickers. You get a new one each year and its a different color each year. This year its light blue. In regards to all the numbers, since the mid 90s, all you have to display is what is in 41Chevy's pic. No more covering 1/2 your sleeper with numbers from each state like you see in older pix.
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Post by rnagle on Mar 27, 2013 4:13:48 GMT -5
Good point Ray, those sleeper numbers (and front bumper full of licence plates) are another thing that really gives a feel for the time frame a truck photo was taken. Looking through books like "Big Rigs of the 1960's" and "Big Rigs of the 1970's" shows a good selection of photos and modelling ideas from those eras.
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Post by caboverkw on Mar 27, 2013 7:55:50 GMT -5
I had 4 numbers plus the IFTA sticker on my trucks. Had the USDOT and MC numbers like Paul posted, but also had a KYU (Kentucky) and Missouri number, Mo. being my home state. I'm pretty sure if you had Ky on your IFTA you had to have the numbers. I do know you could get a temp. permit tho. I didn't run cross country, but that worked for the 9 states I did run.
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Post by 41chevy on Mar 27, 2013 10:45:40 GMT -5
Pauls pic reminded me, the state of Colorado wants your VIN number displayed as well. Sent from my SPH-D710 using proboards N.Y.required NYDOT numbers til a few years ago. N.Y.C., Nassau County and Suffolk County require power units registered in those places to have the VIN displayed. My Marmon has an ICC number also, even though they were stopped around 1994 or 95. modeltruckin.com makes a few sheets of dot / mc numbers. The AMT Reo and International COE has the fuel tax decals and State Authority tags. Paul
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