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Post by dieseldoc on Jan 13, 2010 14:40:22 GMT -5
Can the silver be bought in the bottles. I don't use enamels or Laqour based paints in the apt. (little kids and animals lungs you know) Can it be any shade of silver as it is being the accent color? I have not used a rattle can in a long time and been getting very good with Tamiya paints through my airbrush. I know I can get french blue in acrylic paints but about the specific silver is another story. I would think silvers would be the about the same with the exception of metalic versus nonmetalic. There may be some shade differances but you would have that anyways between silvers on different trucks depending on how many times it is washed polished etc.
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Post by Bri on Jan 13, 2010 19:56:44 GMT -5
If you don't have access to the Sterling Silver metallic then you really don't have much of a choice but to go with what you can get your hands on, ya know? As for DOT #'s, there shoudl be an online listing of DOT #'s by state I would think. I agree with the individual state code and then the last year of the truck and then your membership number. I think we should go with a 4 digit number after the year of the truck. For example, if you're building a 1999 Kenworth and your membership number is 67, then your serial number would be 90067. this way it leaves room for more members to join should they decide to.
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Post by roadtrain on Jan 14, 2010 4:03:28 GMT -5
Cool, Blue and silver that works... I am really looking forward to this CBP
I reckon that the democratic process has been run and now our illustrious Administrator (that would be you Bri, el president, CEO, sir) should choose the design, font and placement of numbers etc, ............... as the truckstop, is YOUR company, therefore YOUR fleet.
Then post a drawing of the fleet design, placement of the unit numbers and company name.... actually a conventional and a COE drawing would be great.. so it is clear as mud to all, and we will all know what it is.......... that way there will be no excuses or confusion.......
As builders, O/O's, sub contractors, etc we can print it off, and place it in our build area, to follow...
I have no contacts for decals but would be happy to purchase a sheet (actually i'd probably need two sheets) of decals (water slide???) specifically for this project... if someone produces them, we could use paypal for the payment.
well, thats my 2 cents... lets get building....
Al...
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Post by dieseldoc on Jan 14, 2010 9:31:18 GMT -5
I reckon that the democratic process has been run and now our illustrious Administrator (that would be you Bri, el president, CEO, sir) should choose the design, font and placement of numbers etc, ............... as the truckstop, is YOUR company, therefore YOUR fleet. Then post a drawing of the fleet design, placement of the unit numbers and company name.... actually a conventional and a COE drawing would be great.. so it is clear as mud to all, and we will all know what it is.......... that way there will be no excuses or confusion....... As builders, O/O's, sub contractors, etc we can print it off, and place it in our build area, to follow... well, thats my 2 cents... lets get building.... Al... I like your thinking......... Make the boss work for a change.
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Post by plastictrucker on Jan 14, 2010 9:42:25 GMT -5
Are you looking at a blue cab with silver stripe or vice versa? I'd say it would have to be blue with silver stripe
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2010 9:43:26 GMT -5
I don't want to seem totally clueless here (too late), but where exactly does one find their Member Number? I checked my profile page, but I don't see it there.
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Post by dieseldoc on Jan 14, 2010 9:50:00 GMT -5
As for DOT #'s, there shoudl be an online listing of DOT #'s by state I would think. I agree with the individual state code and then the last year of the truck and then your membership number. I think we should go with a 4 digit number after the year of the truck. For example, if you're building a 1999 Kenworth and your membership number is 67, then your serial number would be 90067. this way it leaves room for more members to join should they decide to. DOT / authority numbers are asigned to the company not the truck when it comes to a fleet. My whole fleet of wrecker runs under the same DOT#'s. Now if you an O/O I don't know how that works as far as to whose DOT/ authority numbers they run under. The company there running for or there own. Maybe one of our O/O member here can answer that question. Where does one find there membership number? I believe I am #2 if Brian is #1 and this sounds like a very simple way to go about doing unit numbers. If I understood Brian's unit number example correctly (in my sleep deprived state again) shouldn't the unit number be 99067 not 90067? What is a state code and where does one find that?
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Post by plastictrucker on Jan 14, 2010 10:00:48 GMT -5
I was gonna say the same thing about the double digit of the year.Can't tell the difference from a '80 or a '90.I also don't know about using your member #,what if you build 2 or 3 trucks for this CBP in the coarse of a year.I will retract my # from the WIP section till we get it worked out KEVIN
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Post by Bri on Jan 14, 2010 14:06:20 GMT -5
Simple. You can build a different YEAR truck and that will change the serail number altogether. If you look at the numbers I posted, the year changes the serial number. I also agree with using the last 2 digits of the year of the vehicle. I know with aircraft they use the last digit only for their tail numbers but these sure ain't jets!
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Post by 78KW on Jan 14, 2010 16:49:28 GMT -5
As for DOT #'s, there shoudl be an online listing of DOT #'s by state I would think. I agree with the individual state code and then the last year of the truck and then your membership number. I think we should go with a 4 digit number after the year of the truck. For example, if you're building a 1999 Kenworth and your membership number is 67, then your serial number would be 90067. this way it leaves room for more members to join should they decide to. DOT / authority numbers are asigned to the company not the truck when it comes to a fleet. My whole fleet of wrecker runs under the same DOT#'s. Now if you an O/O I don't know how that works as far as to whose DOT/ authority numbers they run under. The company there running for or there own. Maybe one of our O/O member here can answer that question. Where does one find there membership number? I believe I am #2 if Brian is #1 and this sounds like a very simple way to go about doing unit numbers. If I understood Brian's unit number example correctly (in my sleep deprived state again) shouldn't the unit number be 99067 not 90067? What is a state code and where does one find that? Ok. A little DOT/ICC # clarification. Only an independent running with his/her own authority is going to have a USDOT MC # of their own. As far as DOT #'s, that is the same # on every truck in the fleet. MC stands for Motor Carrier #. It's like a license # basically. When leased to a carrier, the owner operator runs under the carrier's numbers. All the ICC MC #'s, state #'s, etc are the same on all trucks in the fleet. Only the unit # is different. Now as far as that goes, the ICC was disbanded in 1995, though many carriers still display an ICC #. That has been replaced by the DOT#. Many carriers will display both. Many states still wanted their state PUCO(Public Utilities Comiision office) and various Commerce Commission #'s displayed. Not really the case anymore. Just your federal DOT # is all you have to display now. Along with only 1 fuel tax sticker. No more driver's doors looking like kid's sticker books with all the fuel tax stickers on them. Up until 3-4 yrs ago, NY required a sticker on your front bumper known as the H.U.T. sticker, or Heavy Use Tax. The last one I had was orange. Same size as a state fuel tax sticker. The current IFTA sticker for this year is a medium blue. Here is the sign on my truck now. It still shows the ICC #, but also the DOT #. The other # is I believe our Canadian operator's #. When you see a VIN # listed on the side of the truck, that's a requirement for Colorado. They want at least the last 8 digits. Here are examples using my 3 trucks I have owned. My 1999 Peterbilt 379: XD 454630 X=1999 D=Built in Denton, TX plant 454630=serial # My current truck, 2000 Peterbilt 379: YN 479065 Y=2000 N=built in Nashville, TN plant. 479065=serial# My 2002 KW T600: 2J 879862 2=2002 J=built(I think, not sure) in Chillicothe, OH plant. 879862 is the serial #. The other thing that was required, but I'm told not anymore even though some carriers still do, is to display the city and state of the carrier's home office. As far as other sign regulations, the law says the letters must be @least 3" tall. Truck # location doesn't matter, although fleets love putting them on the side of the hood. Another thing, many carriers will numerically distinguish owner operator from company trucks. For example, when I was at Marten Transport, we had 5 digit #'s starting with 1. Mine was 12097. The company trucks were four digit. My first truck was an old Marten truck. Originally unit #3581. Eventually, however, since our trailers were also 5 digit #'s starting with 1, the new numbering system was a 5 digit # starting with 5 beginning in 2004 for owner op trucks. There are interesiting things about owner operator unit #'s. Using the 3 carriers I've leased to: Marten Transport:New truck # when you bought a new truck(common with most carriers). Fikes Truck Line:Same # 'til you leave. Trailer # is the same as the tractor with an A at the end. (i.e. 2851A) Diamond Transportation:5 digit #. The last digit changes every time you get a new truck, statring @ 0. Right now, it's 58620. I get a new truck, it's 58621. So really, I'm truck 5862. Hopefully this helps some.
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Post by thumper on Jan 15, 2010 7:32:10 GMT -5
Anyone else have a headache? .... I'm so lost and confused. I remember seeing O/O trucks having small decals on the O/O trucks usually on the fuel tanks or lower part of the sleeper... something like that. I remember seeing years ago some small feet trucks having their decals and the words LEASED TO: or HAULING FOR: .... and then the company name. I want to do this and will have to "cut a few corners" (exact paint color for example ) to do it... I'm a bit confued about the "truck number idea" I was using my area code as a beginner idea. My paint will be straightforward and simple... My wheels ( If I can find them) will two hole steel. My trailer... White with the ageed on logo Simple... just like a real fleet An idea I had was using the date the forum was started as the DOT number...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2010 14:00:14 GMT -5
Little suggestion. Since some of us including myself cannot find our member number how about using our birthdates. Say you were born (using mine for example Jan. 12,1961 ) omit the month completely use the day 12 and the last 2 digits of the year 61 giving you a four digit number of 1261. If say you were born on the first thru the nineth and born in 1961 it would be 0161, 0261 etc. Just my opinion and Im sticking to it.
Also if you build more than one truck you can use the same number just add a hyphen number or letter afterward. Like truck number one will be 871261. Number two would be 871261-2 or 871261B truck three 871261-3 or 871261C
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Post by dieseldoc on Jan 15, 2010 15:11:57 GMT -5
This made sense until you added the 87 infront of the number. Where did the 87 come from? Also we could wind up with duplicate numbers this way as well
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Post by thumper on Jan 15, 2010 16:15:19 GMT -5
Or.. What about this... Go by State.. Either alphabetically by number Example .. A tractor from the main terminal in AL.. State-Terminal-number assigned to that tractor TK 01-02-500 Stay with me... Ok Jerry and I both live in MS... Jerry's listed as 24-1-100 or 241100 and my truck could be 242200 If Jerry wanted to build another truck.. then the number could be 24-1-101 and my second would be 24-2-201 As for year model.. Where I work as we get a new unit and one is retired the new one takes the old ones number Mentioned by state .. then by builder(terminal number) then truck number each builder should be able to maintain a fleet of several truck if he wanted to... and the number shouldn't be repeated to easily For trailers add a "T" Now for our brothers overseas.. Well I'm not too sure but there's bound to be a way to make it work right.. If you wanted it to.. This is a world wide company with huge divisions and purposes... The rolling stock could be massive ... Once again.. Just my thoughts... a simple mind in action PS Hope you don't mind :-/me using you in my example Jerry
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2010 16:36:26 GMT -5
Ok let me see if I'm following this. Since no one seems to be able to track down their member number, the truck number will be the last two digits of the year of the truck followed by the month and last two digits of our birth year? So, in my case I'm planning on a 1992 Kenworth T600, and I was born in June of 1968; my truck number would be 920668. Sound right?
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