tufftin
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Post by tufftin on Aug 20, 2010 14:35:10 GMT -5
I'm building a couple of Pete log trucks and thought I would show you how the rear frame should be extended to properly steer the trailer. The frame must be extended in one or two ways. I'm doing one of each. The first picture shows the tapered ends of a Pete frame cut off and then I used the frame from an old model to extend the rails out about 7 feet. I also added another cross member just ahead of where the taper to the center will start. Hosted on FotkiThe second picture shows the taper on the white frame. The red frame was painted and the paint went flat on me so has to be re-done plus I screwed up a Peerless log trailer so I cut it up to make a removeable or extendable rear stinger. This set up works well for quick changes from logging to lowboy or semi's Mike Hosted on Fotki
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Post by loghauler70 on Aug 20, 2010 23:02:36 GMT -5
Mike this is just a observation but if you try to put the back rear end in your quick change truck it wont fit your quick change insert for you stinger will be in the way. It should look more like mine. I pattern mine after the ones that Whit log builds. Whit log trailers web site should have plenty of pictures for you to look at. Mark Attachments:
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78KW
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Post by 78KW on Aug 21, 2010 0:02:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the tutorial. This is informative.
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Post by tufftin on Aug 21, 2010 9:55:31 GMT -5
Thanks for your pic loghauler. I know mine is a bit awry but it's just a start and will be worked out. Just trying to let these guy's know that they need stingers.
Had my son's last truck done at Gene's (Whit Log) They do some wonderful work and Gene is a walking information center for dimentions and weight distribution.
Mike
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78KW
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Post by 78KW on Aug 21, 2010 10:58:35 GMT -5
I have a question on the stinger. Aren't there some loggers that just have a regular frame ends(square) but just that they extend several feet past the drive axles? Or do they have to taper?
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Post by loghauler70 on Aug 21, 2010 12:33:21 GMT -5
Hello Yes the way you describe is actually the most common way to see a stinger. You can get them from the factory that way ausually with the hitch and air lins and light already to the back of the frame. The double taper takes quite a bit of work to do. I don't think you san get a double taper frame from the factory but I could be wrong. A quick change is a special odred usually done when the bunk equipment is installed. I attached a picture of one of my trucks that has a stinger like you are asking about. Mark Attachments:
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Post by loghauler70 on Aug 21, 2010 12:39:28 GMT -5
Mike
Ya Gene is a heck of a cool guy. I had a chance to talk to him this week as a matter of fact. I showed him some pictures of my models that I had in my phone and he thought they were awesome. He is going to send me the line drawings for his new 3 axle long logger so I can build one. We also takted about the possability of me building a truck for him to display in his office.
Mark
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tufftin
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Post by tufftin on Aug 21, 2010 14:49:42 GMT -5
Spreadaxel The double tapered stingers are normally done by the people that build the log bunks and equipment. My son's last big rig was done at Whit Log in Wilbur (Roseburg) Oregon and they tapered the frame in. It just gives you more room for hook ups and less of a chance of hitting the reach if you jack knife it backing up empty. All in all they have an extended frame of some sort to steer the trailer.
Mark.................. Cool! Keep me posted on your build. They don't come any better than Gene.
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78KW
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Post by 78KW on Aug 21, 2010 15:43:48 GMT -5
Thanks. I thought that was the most common way, but I wasn't sure. I've seen my share of log trucks, but not so much from the west. I've never seen that taper, so I thought maybe it was more of a western thing. Most of the ones I've gotten to look at up close were in the Texas/Arkansas region. I hauled lots of lumber out that part of the country. Although I see the regular semi log trailer is becoming more popular than this setup.
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phoneguy
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Post by phoneguy on Aug 23, 2010 21:05:30 GMT -5
A tutorial would really be welcomed.
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Post by loghauler70 on Aug 24, 2010 0:09:58 GMT -5
Mike
I will definately keep everyone posted on my build I haven't gotten the drawings or pictures from Gene yet. It might be a little wile till I get the trailer started. I am trying to get a bunch of projects finished up that I have been staring at way TOOOOOOOO long. I have 5 that need finish 3 log trucks a W900 transfer dump and trailer and a W900 A model long hood super semi pulling truck. My goal is to have my desk clean when my Mobius Lonestars get here I want to give the first one my undivided attention. Did you see my 378 set back front axle with the 3 axle Lincoln long logger on it that I posted here? If you didn't I can send you a couple pictures of it privately. Phone guy What kind of tutorial do you want I will be happy to answer any questions. I am sure Mike can as well.
Mark
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Post by phoneguy on Aug 24, 2010 7:38:55 GMT -5
Mike Phone guy What kind of tutorial do you want I will be happy to answer any questions. I am sure Mike can as well. Mark Some good close up pics work for me, since I usually don't read instructions. ;D ;D
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tufftin
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Post by tufftin on Aug 24, 2010 9:30:15 GMT -5
Mark. I saw it and it looks great. I have been away from this hobby for 40 years so any scratch building for me is a new experience. Hell........... it's all new anymore especially with the tools available today like resin products and Evergreen plastics. I'm really enjoying this but it's 2 steps forward and 1 back but I'll get there.
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Post by loghauler70 on Aug 24, 2010 12:01:52 GMT -5
Mike
I would have never even made an attempt at scratch building till I discivered Evergreen I tried a couple times with the Old o plastruckt that was made from ABS plastic instead of styrene and it sucked. I like resin too I haven't been working with it all that long but I am working with it more and more. I have several hoods rat holled for future projects and I just got a T800 cab,hood and front suspension that I am going to use to build a mule train in the future.
Mark
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Post by loghauler70 on Aug 24, 2010 12:08:36 GMT -5
What do you want the tutorial on? Stingers or my future trailer build? I can post pics of all 3 types of stingers but I won't be starting the trailer for a wile.
Makt
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